How to spot a lie—Kenny Ortega Part 3

This interview is with Oprah Winfrey. Here is part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mj8S0gchIM&feature=related.

2:00 Oprah asks, “Have you been able to process that he is gone?” Ortega, smiling, responds, “Little bits, he’s still so much alive for me. Thank God.” That’s weird. Michael Jackson has been dead for about 4 months. I would think that it would have hit Kenny Ortega by now, and that he would not be smiling.

2:10-2:20 Oprah eyes dart up and to the left while she recalls watching the movie.

2:20 Ortega says, “He is so present in the film that you can forget that he is still not with us.” Check out his face after he says that. Once he registers what he said, he licks his lips, blinks rapidly, and then smiles. The first two are signs of anxiety.

2:30-3:10 Oprah says that she heard that Michael would call him in the middle of the night and shout out ideas. Watch Ortega when she says, “fireflies”. He says “yes”, but shakes his head “no”. He then goes on to explain what “fireflies” means, hardly looking at Oprah, until he gets to the part about looking up the word “bioluminescent”. Once he finishes he shrugs his shoulders. Maybe that is not what “fireflies” truly means. If you noticed, he kind of changed the subject. Oprah asked what it meant, referring to what it meant to Michael and why he wanted them, but Kenny Ortega turns it into how fireflies represent Michael Jackson.

4:05 He says they started rehearsing in late April. Check out his eyes while he is thinking of that, they are up and to the right. He is lying!

4:25 Oprah says “Weren’t you close to going to London.”Ortega responds, “We were about eight days away.” Check out his posture, he starts to get real fidgety.


Oprah interview part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuEKB47gaF8&NR=1.

1:50-2:50 He says Michael Jackson was healthy, no drug abuse. There are no signs that he is lying.

5:30 Oprah asks if there were any concerns. Ortega shakes head “no”, but says “yes”.

Believe.