How to spot a lie—Brian Oxman Part 8

Here is an interview given to ITN on June 26: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48RjrkQYCIA&feature=fvsr.

It is a pretty short interview (only three minutes in length), but there is one major thing I want to bring up. These “How to spot a lie” posts do more than just point lies; they detail what each person exactly said in his/her interviews and point out inconsistencies. I’ve always believed that the way to figure this out is by looking at the months leading up to the death and the days immediately after. To me, this was the time people would most likely slip-up before getting their stories in sync.

Over the course of listening to the Brian Oxman interviews, one thing immediately stuck out to me weeks ago, but I shrugged it off as nothing. It happened again, and still I decided that it was nothing. But, it happened again, and I can’t keep shrugging it off as nothing. Coincidences are normal, but too many show a pattern. Here is what I have been seeing:

Part 5: http://hoaxornot.blogspot.com/2010/04/how-to-spot-liebrian-oxman-part-5.html
Again, I mention starting at 0:15 Brian Oxman’s calls and how he had re-worded his story of what happened. He did not say “from the hospital”, and this time it made a lot more sense, but it was still almost the same as what he said in Part 5. He had just cleared up the mistakes.

Part 6: http://hoaxornot.blogspot.com/2010/04/how-to-spot-liebrian-oxman-part-6.html
Again, I mention starting at 0:15 Brian Oxman’s calls and how he had re-worded his story of what happened. He did not say “from the hospital”, and this time it made a lot more sense, but it was still almost the same as what he said in Part 5. He had just cleared up the mistakes.

Part 8:
1:17 “I got a phone call from Randy Jackson’s assistant. He is the youngest of the Jackson brothers and the assistant told me that Michael had been taken to the hospital. I got a hold of Randy. I said, ‘Randy, what’s happened?’ He said he didn’t know he was on the way to the hospital and to meet him there. I got there first. It was chaos. When he walked through the door, we just hugged one another. He was crying he couldn’t speak. I couldn’t speak. He went into the next room and that was then followed a few minutes later by Jermaine coming into the hospital. His tears were streaming down his faced. I hugged him. I said, ‘Jermaine’ and he could not speak to me and I knew what happened and Jermaine then went into the other room.”

Does this sound familiar?

What has really bothered me about these accounts is that it seems just like a story. Every time he talks about this, he seems to basically recite the exact same thing. Though he should say the same story every time, it should not be word for word. It might just be me, but it seems to be rehearsed.

Liars have speech that is too "perfect". People are not tape recorders. Our memories are imperfect. Normally, when people trying to recall the truth, they make minor mistakes in memory -- they often need to circle back, fill in details they have forgotten. But liars are different. They sound like tape recorders. Every detail is remembered. And every detail is recited in perfect chronological order. Liars make fewer speech errors than those telling the truth, and they rarely backtrack to fill in forgotten or incorrect details… Ever notice how many politicians can recite a speech the same way each time, never missing a beat, even pausing for effect at the exact time, time after time. Not to say they are all liars but the skill of repeating a story exactly the same each time is one of the main ways to spot a liar.

By: Sara Ott from: http://www.collectivewizdom.com/LiarLiarpage3.html

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How to spot a lie—Brian Oxman/Bryan Stoller Part 7

The interview with Oxman and Stoller starts at 3:45. Here is the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhr9x45nnSA.

3:50 Does Bryan Stoller look a little twitchy to you? Watch him while Brian Oxman talks. He keeps rubbing his hand and shaking his head “no”.

4:45 Stoller says he saw Michael about a month ago and he was very weak. He talks about being about to feel Michael’s bones. Three months previously, though, when Michael made his This Is It announcement, Dermot O’Leary described him as muscular and buff. That is a big difference from Stoller’s description.

5:30 Oxman talks about Michael’s drug use. At 6:10 he says that all of the family members have talked about it. “I’ve talked about it with Randy. I’ve talked with Latoya, with Jermaine, with Mrs. Jackson.” Jermaine said in Part 1 that he knew nothing about drug use. How can Oxman have warned Jermaine, but Jermaine has never heard anything about drugs? Someone is lying.

It’s a very short interview, but there are major differences in the demeanor of Brian Oxman and Bryan Stoller. Oxman seems stiff and unemotional. He answers most of the questions before Stoller has a chance to get a word in. Stoller, though, is very fidgety. Unlike Oxman, he is always twitching his leg or moving his fingers: classic signs of agitation.

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How to spot a lie—Jermaine Jackson Part 2

Here is part 2 of Jermaine’s interview with Matt Lauer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLSG2MWOyEA&annotation_id=annotation_909300&feature=iv.

0:50 He talks about the Jackson 5. By talking while moving his hands, he shows that he is confident in what he is saying.

1:20 He says there were plans of Jackson 5 concerts after Michael’s shows in London.

1:50-3:10 He says that Michael was ready physically for the London shows. He mentions seeing Michael and the children at their parents’ house not too long ago and how excited Michael was for the shows in London.

5:00 “A lot of people that really said the most awful things about him, they realize now how much they love him.”

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How to spot a lie—Jermaine Jackson Part 1

This is Jermaine’s interview at Neverland Ranch with Matt Lauer. It is the first interview with a family member after Michael Jackson’s death. Check out part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-9Vm25hgu8.

0:25 Check out his eyes. They flicker to the right while he talks.

0:30 “It’s very tough”, he says while shaking his head “no”.

0:45 “We lost our brother,” he says while shaking his head “no”. He continues with, “Our…Our…”, then glances to the right searching for something to say. Then he goes on to say that “it is unreal; it is unbelievable” while looking right and shaking his head “no”.

1:05 Matt Lauer says that Katherine Jackson told Jermaine that Michael was dead. He keeps glancing to the right. When he says he rushed to the hospital, he shakes his head “no”.

1:40 He says he went straight to his mother. In the previous interviews with Brian Oxman, Oxman says that when Jermaine arrived a little after Randy they hugged and cried, before Jermaine walked into the room where his family was.

1:55-2:40 He keeps glancing to the right.

3:25 He says “He [Allah] is taking him back,” and shakes his head “no”.

4:40 He says Michael was against abusing medication, and says that he would be hurt if he was. He continues by saying that he doesn’t know for sure if Michael was or was not. According to Oxman, though, he says the family knew about it and he warned them about this happening. Jermaine doesn’t act like he knows anything about this.

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How to spot a lie—Brian Oxman Part 6

The next day, Brian Oxman gave a similar interview to the one previously. This one was on the Today Show on NBC with Meredith Vieira. Here is the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJV2OhPclWw&feature=related.

0:15 “I got a call from Randy Jackson’s assistant. She told me that he was being taken to the hospital.” Notice that he says to this time and not from.

0:23 “I called Randy. I said, ‘Randy what is happening.’ He says, ‘Brian, I don’t know. I’m on the way to the hospital.’ I said, ‘I’ll see you there.’ He said, ‘This is serious.’” Basically, this is what he said before, but this time it makes sense and is in chronological order.

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How to spot a lie—Brian Oxman Part 5

Later on June 25, Brian Oxman gave an interview with CBS. Check it out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4gB7TQXXI0&feature=related.

0:10 “I am heartbroken.” Then, he smiles.

0:20 “I got a call just a little before noon that Michael had been taken from the hospital by Randy’s assistant who gave me that call.” From the hospital? Before noon? The 911 call wasn’t made until 12:21.

0:30 “I then came over here and talked to Randy. I said, ‘Randy what’s happened.’ He says, ‘I don’t know, Brian. I’ll meet you at the Medical Center.’ We got here and when I saw him, we just hugged.” This is really weird. Read it word for word carefully. He starts out by saying he “came over here and talked to Randy”. At 0:05, here is said to be the UCLA Medical Center. According to him, he is talking to Randy at the Medical Center, and Randy says that he will meet Oxman at the Medical Center. OK, um…that’s interesting. Somebody messed up.

0:20-0:55 He gives this really heartbreaking speech about how he saw the brothers and they hugged and cried, and it make you feel really sad until he says “I am heartbroken” while smiling. Why in the world is he smiling?

1:10-2:45 He talks about drug use, again. He keeps saying that he doesn’t know what caused this and that we shouldn’t jump to conclusions. Isn’t that what he is doing, though? No one know if it is drug use or not yet, but he keeps bringing the topic up.

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How to spot a lie—Brian Oxman Part 4

Here is the second official interview that Brian Oxman gave on June 25th: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCMOLWUAdME.

I barely saw anything of interest, but check it out, you might see more than me.

1:50 He talks about drug use and calls it “excessive”. This is just my observation, but he seems to bring this up in every interview that he gives.

3:15 Did he shake his head “no”? That’s interesting since he is talking about how well the police and district attorney is going to look at this case.

4:05 Oxman says, “I only know that I feared being here on this day talking to you and talking to others.” This is just kind of a weird statement. If you read it word for word, it sounds like he knew this would happen today and he feared having to give interviews. Maybe he worded it wrong? He could have instead meant that he feared something like this would happen and that he did not want to be there when it did.

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